Adapted from episode 147 of The Perfect Stool podcast edited for readability with Dr. Har Hari Khalsa, holistic chiropractor Transformational Healing Universe in Los Angeles, California.
Lindsey:
When I heard from you about coming on the podcast, I thought, well, I haven’t talked much about these alternative therapy modalities, primarily because unless you see someone in person, you can’t really access them. But I think it’s good to know about them, because sometimes people are at the end of their ropes with supplements and diets and lifestyle changes, and they’re just not making progress. So it’s nice to learn about other alternative therapy modalities. So we’re going to talk about some of them, but before we do, people might benefit from this, can you kind of take us around your clinic and show us some of the machines and just talk about what they are?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
So this is the Cyberscan. It’s connected with the computer. This is what I do, the bioscan. It’s basically an energy scan of the entire body. I typically start treatment with patients doing this, because it really goes deep right away, and we can tell a lot about what’s happening.
Lindsey:
That was the thing you did with my saliva, you just set it on the machine?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Yes, yeah, we could do this remotely, too, and it’s highly accurate. It gives us a lot of information that you otherwise couldn’t get, even from a blood test. So I love using the cyber scanner. Let’s go to the next room here. So this piece of equipment, you can see it has a treatment head on it. This is called a StemWave. This is a shock wave machine that we use for joint rehab. So it’s one of the best therapies that I’ve ever found that helps with chronic inflammation, arthritis or injury. For any joint in the body, we use it on wrists, ankles, knees, low backs, you name it, we treat the joint. We’ve had probably six or seven people in the last year that have avoided surgery with this technology. So it’s using powerful sound waves that get generated through this head, and it stimulates the repair of the tissue by activating your body’s own stem cells.
Lindsey:
That’s why it’s called the StemWave, right?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Yeah. So this right here is called an Epoch Laser. This is a class four laser that we use also for tissue healing and repair, using infrared light to penetrate very deep in the tissue. It’s primarily good for deep pain, like somebody’s suffering and they’re not getting relief from anything else. This will give them almost instantaneous relief from pain. So we use those in conjunction the StemWave and the laser.
Next room is the chiropractic room. This is where we do chiropractic. The tool I use primarily for chiropractic is called a Sigma instrument. So I use this probe. It’s a piezoelectric sensor as well as an adjusting tool. This is a very powerful way to scan the spine and then adjust the spine gently. I can do this on any patient, regardless of their age or their condition, even if they’ve had spinal surgery or whatever is going on with them. This is safe to use. So this is a highly effective tool for scanning the spine. Patients love it. It feels really good. It’s using vibration versus a hard crack that a normal chiropractor would use. It’s using more of a vibration to move the bone. I still do traditional chiropractic if a person needs it or they want it, but this is doing it from a very gentle approach, where we scan every segment of the spine. So the patient lays on this chair here, face down, this right here.
This is our EMTT. So EMTT stands for extracorporeal magnetic transduction. It puts out a very powerful magnetic field. We put this against the patient’s joint, wherever they’re injured, and this is pumping out 1000s of Gauss of energy. If I had paper clips and I put it against there, the whole thing will spark. That’s how much magnetic energy is coming off of this. So this is used for tissue regeneration, also inflammation and pain. They did research in Germany, and they showed that with magnetic energy, in order to actually see tissue change and healing, you have to have a certain amount of power, and that’s what the EMTT gives us, a high enough power where you actually can see tissue regeneration happening.
So now coming into here, this is called Theriphi. Theriphi is a pretty awesome tool. So the tubes on it are plasma tubes that are being energized by a giant Tesla coil. When the patient lays in the middle of these two things, you can see a lightbulb lights up. Imagine the patient is laying there, and their cells are getting energized by this cold plasma energy field, so a 500,000-volt field of energy, and the research they’ve done over the years with this type of device, they’ve seen many different conditions, autoimmune, cancers, anything chronic pain, acute injury, it just accelerates the healing process. Back in the 60s, they were doing experiments with lab animals, and they were reversing cancers with the plasma fields. It’s a very cool device. It’s very soothing. You can see the waves of energy it produces, but it’s a very calming, very soothing energy. People really love it, especially if someone’s suffering in pain or trauma and they lay on this thing, it just brings you into a zero-point energy state, which is very healing for the body and the mind.
I’ll take you through the rest of the clinic here. This is our yoga center. We teach yoga classes here. It’s kind of dark in here, but we have a nice yoga center where we teach yoga classes. We’re going to head back into the hyperbaric room.
Here’s our hyperbaric chamber. This is a rather big one. This is where we do hyperbaric. Hyperbaric is a wonderful therapy for healing, accelerated healing, wound healing, stem cell regeneration, all kinds of things. It’s one of the best healing modalities in the world.
So this is our pulse room. This is where we do pulse therapy. These tables are high powered pulse magnetics. So I’m going to just turn one on here. So the patients lay on the table, and then we control the inner of the table. These are giant coils that run through these paths. These are like zero gravity tables. When the patient’s laying there, they’re getting a huge energy boost of magnetic energy, which helps accelerate healing, it helps with mitochondrial function. Basically, cell voltage is raised significantly.
This is our Tesla coil. This is called a biocharger. So this is similar to the Theraphi, and then it puts out an energy field that goes out about 30 feet. It fills this entire room, and we run very specific recipes that have different frequencies, so we can target inflammation, mitochondria, brain, liver, pathogens, any kind of situation someone’s got going on, there’s a recipe for it. And then this is the chair. We have different ways of applying the magnetic energy. This is through a chair. I would consider this the foundation of all healing. In order for the body to heal, you need voltage, and a lot of times when people get stuck in their healing process, it’s because they have low voltage. So that’s, I would say, the most important. We’ve seen people with chronic digestive issues with a pulse that have had fantastic results.
Okay, this one here is called a Bioptron Light. This is from Switzerland. What this is is using a special hyperpolarized light that is shining light through what’s called C60. I don’t want to blind anyone, but you can see it has a special lens, and so when the light hits the body, it’s stimulating tissue repair and healing at the deepest level. So they use this in hospitals for third degree burns, non-healing wounds, things like that. And we use it just to help with any condition that patients got going on.
And then the last thing I’m going to show you is our spa. So we have right here. It’s called a relaxed sauna. This is an infrared sauna that patients use for sweating, because sweating is one of the most powerful therapies. In studies done in Finland, it showed a 40% decrease of all-cause mortality. So sauna is a very powerful therapy. And then this is our cold plunge. This is a commercial grade. It’s around 40 degrees in there. We have patients who go in the cold plunge daily as part of the therapy. Cold is a very powerful healing modality. So we’ll talk more about that too. We’ve got the full gambit, pretty much. We’re dealing with every aspect of energy healing.
Lindsey:
Okay, great. So of all those modalities that you just showed us, what do you think are the ones that are most applicable to gut health issues?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
That’s a great question, like I said when I was back in the pulse room, raising cell voltage is the primary thing for any chronic problems. Anything. Doesn’t matter what it is, so I would say that’s foundational, and everything else works towards that same goal, but it’s doing it with different forms of energy.
Lindsey:
So this is pulse electromagnetic fields?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Yeah, but it’s high power. Okay, there’s a differentiation. A lot of people don’t know. They hear the term PEMF means pulse electromagnetic field therapy, but there’s a huge difference between a low-powered machine and a high-powered machine. I’ve worked with both, and they both have efficacy, but the heavy lifter when you’re talking about something that’s very chronic, you’re going to get far better results with a high-powered machine.
Lindsey:
So what’s a treatment cycle look like for say, I don’t know, I’m assuming this is something that might be applicable to inflammatory bowel disease.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Well, we had a patient last year that had that condition, and he was basically coming once a week, because he was coming from Orange County, so it wasn’t practical for him to be here as much as we’d want him to be. But he came every week for six months. So you know, that’s four times a month times six. So that’s 24 sessions, and he was pretty much better after that period of time. And he ended up buying the equipment for home use after that, just because he didn’t want to revert back into where he was. Yeah, that’s typical. We tell patients that 50 hours cumulative treatment time for almost any condition, you’re going to get huge benefit.
Lindsey:
And would that typically resolve the condition so that it could stay that resolved?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Well, it’s always an aspect of maintenance. So once you turn something around, then you probably want to do maintenance. About once a month. I’m still doing pulse to this day. I did my initial care 11 years ago, and I still get on that machine at least once a week.
Lindsey:
Do you want to discuss what that was for?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
It’s really just part of my healing. I had a chronic injury where I injured my hip, think I fractured it. I never really got an x-ray, but I had difficulty walking, and I was in chronic pain for probably two and a half years. That was definitely a huge part of the healing process.
Lindsey:
So compared to the low powered units, maybe the kind of thing you could buy on Amazon, I saw one for $119 that was 3 to 23 hertz.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Yeah, there’s no comparison. We’re talking 1000s of Gauss. A low power unit is typically about one Gauss.
Lindsey:
What’s the word Gauss?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Gauss. It’s a measurement of magnetic force or energy.
Lindsey:
How do you spell that?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
G, A, U, S, S, Gauss. When you get into the really high magnetic energies, the measurement is in Tesla. EMTT is like three Tesla. And I think an MRI machine is six Tesla. So an EMTT is approaching the power of an MRI, which is super high levels of magnetic energy.
Lindsey:
And so the pulse unit you have does how many Gauss?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
It’s in 10s of 1000s. They don’t publish it because it’s proprietary. But if I take paper clips and put it on the applicator from the pulse, it’ll send sparks a foot high. So it’s got quite a bit of power.
Lindsey:
So if you have some kind of metal in your body, probably not a good idea to use it.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
No, it’s safe to use with titanium. The only thing that’s contradicted is any kind of electronic implant. If someone’s got a pacemaker or something like that, they can’t go on the pulse machine.
Lindsey:
What if you have screws in your bones or something?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Screws are okay. It’s not going to cause sparking in there, because it’s only externally. If it’s internal, inside your body, right, not directly on it.
Lindsey:
Okay, got it. And so the mechanism of action of the pulse? Can you explain it a little bit more?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Electromagnetic pulse energy is a form of voltage. Every cell in your body has voltage in it. It’s about 70 microvolts of energy in a normal, healthy cell. What happens is, if a cell gets injured or if there’s toxins, or something’s going wrong, the voltage will drop in that cell, and then that’s what actually causes the disease. The lower the voltage, the cell starts becoming abnormal, and it can actually revert into a cancer cell. A cancer cell is a extremely low voltage cell, so when you start increasing the voltage of all the cells, including those cells, which, by the way, our bodies are always producing these bad cells, they’re usually not a problem, because our overall voltage is high enough where it doesn’t manifest into anything. But if the overall body of that person’s voltage goes too low, then you’re going to start to see cancers spread and grow, because there’s a part of cancer that grows because of low voltage and also low oxygen and also acidic. So cancer is like all those things, low energy, low oxygen and acidity. When you get those three things together, that’s a bad formula. The pulse is essentially reversing those conditions. So now the the healthier cells can take hold and take over the body from the lower voltage cells. Cancer is like the worst man of the station, but any disease process, anything in the gut, let’s say arthritic joint or degeneration in the brain, neurodegeneration, all of those things have one thing in common, low voltage.
Lindsey:
So would this be a good treatment for Alzheimer’s?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Fantastic. As a complimentary with Alzheimer’s, you also have to get more oxygen in that brain too, and that’s where the hyperbaric comes in.
Lindsey:
Okay, so let’s talk about the hyperbaric, because I know in the intro call that we had, you mentioned that as another treatment for gut health issues.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Yeah, it’s a huge thing, because almost anything that’s gut related, there’s inflammation. And hyperbaric is probably the number one therapy for anti-inflammation. I’ve seen that connected with autoimmune, so a lot of times when people have a leaky gut issue, they end up getting autoimmune issues as well. What I’ve seen just clinically with patients is that they get in the hyperbaric and their symptoms start going away real fast because you’re just bringing down that inflammation. And most of the symptoms people have are related to inflammation. When you’re reducing inflammation, it’s like you’re putting the fire out, like we have all these fires going on in LA right now. So when you’re going into hyperbaric it’s like bringing down that inflammation, it’s bringing down the fire so the body can function better and heal quicker. But hyperbaric is also doing a lot of other things as well. They did research on the genetics, and they found that over 8000 genes are switched on for anti-inflammation and healing, cellular healing, meaning there’s more autophagy happening, where the bad cells, the senescent cells, are cleaned out, and then the stem cells are activated. So they did a study. It’s unpublished. I just found out about this a few months ago, where in one week in the hyperbaric chamber, it triples your circulating stem cells, and a month 8x’s your circulating stem cells. So when you have more stem cells circulating in the blood, now you’ve got way higher chance of the body healing because it has what it needs, because our bodies heal through our stem cells.
Lindsey:
And when you say one week, do you mean an hour a day for one week? Or you mean like literally being in there the entire week?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
An hour a day, for one week. Normally, hyperbaric is done for an hour, typically, sometimes a little longer, but most patients go for an hour.
Lindsey:
Okay, yeah, what’s the normal course of treatment for, say, an autoimmune disease on hyperbaric?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Because we stack these therapies, if you were talking about hyperbaric by itself, most functional medical doctors will tell you to do 40 hours for a real chronic thing. Brain injury might require multiple series of 40 hours. Somebody who’s had multiple concussions or a TBI or a stroke, they might need to do 100 hours. It just depends on the severity of the case. But typically, we’ve seen amazing results. For example, long COVID in 20 sessions, all their symptoms go away.
Lindsey:
What kind of symptoms might people be having?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
The biggest symptom is fatigue. They can barely move.
Lindsey:
Yeah. What about POTS?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Yeah, totally, yeah.
Lindsey:
So I’m curious about this, you mentioned stroke. Of all the modalities that you have, are there any that could impact somebody who had a stroke years and years ago? Like, 10 years ago, 5 years ago?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
The thing they’ve shown with hyperbarics is that it really doesn’t matter when the injury happened, as soon as you get into that high oxygen, high pressure environment, the healing starts. We had patients who had, I think a stroke, five years prior to doing the therapy, and they had fantastic results.
Lindsey:
What kinds of function was restored?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Yeah. Well, cognitive the ability to read and write, do normal human things. You have a stroke; you lose that ability.
Lindsey:
Yeah? Now I’m thinking of someone I know who had a stroke and has limited use of one of his legs.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Yeah, it’ll definitely help overall, because it’s getting stem cells. We don’t ever guarantee any kind of end result, but overall, the functionality and their whole life should improve, because you’re treating the entire body. Hyperbarics is holistic treatment. So the goal is to make the whole person healthier.
Lindsey:
And so I know also that you can purchase your own hyperbaric chambers that are made of, I guess they’re soft-shell ones. How are those compared to the kind of unit you have?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Anything that raises the pressure, even the soft-shell ones that you’re talking about, they get results. The only difference is that it takes longer. You have to do more sessions, but you’ll still get the results.
Lindsey:
Yeah, because I know that my brother-in-law bought one of those, so it can’t be too outrageously expensive.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
They typically run from around $7500 to about, depending on the company and the size of the unit, it can go all the way to $25,000. But a typical unit, because we’re reps for The Summit to Sea, a 32 inch, which is fairly comfortable for most people, that going to be around $13,000.
Lindsey:
I think he must have gotten it used. I don’t think he paid more than $1500 for it.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
That’s very rare to find a unit, even used. They typically aren’t less than $5000 I would say for used units.
Lindsey:
Yeah. Well, I guess I didn’t actually know how much he spent on it. I’ll have to find out. So let’s talk about the Cyberscan technology that you used with me. So if you wanted to describe its background and how it works in theory, then I can talk a little bit about my experience with it.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Cyberscan was developed in Germany. I would say the Germans have decades of research of bioenergetic testing. The original machines were called Vega bowl machines, and they would test the fingers, the tip of the fingers, with a probe, and test the electrical resistance. And they got fairly good results with those devices. But what they found out, though, over many years, is that when you put electricity into a meridian, it actually affects the meridian. So now you’re skewing the scan. You’re influencing it. The reason the Cyberscan came to be is they wanted a device that didn’t skew the results, and so what they figured out was a way to measure the energy field with Tesla coils. To this day I don’t know how that actually works, but I’ve seen it work consistently for a decade. So I know it does work, but the theory is that it’s using the Tesla coil to produce what’s called a scalar wave. And the scalar wave is what’s capturing the energy field of the DNA, or the what they call the morphogenetic field of the patient. That’s why we can use some saliva or their hair, because that has the energy signature of that person.
And then once that’s captured within the device, we run a scan with a database, algorithm, database that has a way to scan the energy field and detect where there is imbalance in the various organs and, then it makes a card that’s used as a remedy. So once we’ve done the scan, we can imprint this magnetic field with the frequencies that came up from the scan, and then when the patient wears this, it’s like a form of information medicine. It’s giving the energy field the signal, signaling that it needs to remove the interference. I try to keep it as simple as possible. Think of a beaver dam. The beaver dams up the dam, and water gets backed up. It’s the same thing in our body. When we have interference in the energy flow, it backs things up. You get problems with your lymph, with your circulation, your nervous system, your elimination, all these different systems of the body. So what this energy does is it unblocks, remove the interference, so the body can just heal itself.
Lindsey:
Okay, so let me talk about what happened. So Dr. Khalsa did a Cyberscan on me with my saliva. I sent him 2, 10 milliliter vials, and he put it onto his machine and sent me a card. And apparently you use these cards every two weeks for like, six times.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
That’s the typical treatment.
Lindsey:
So I just had the one card for two weeks. We went over my results, and I’m a bit of a skeptic, but at the same time, I’m intrigued, so I’ll tell you why. You said on the call you don’t normally show the results to clients, but I did get to see the list of my conditions, but I was taking screenshots so that I could record those conditions and go through them in detail. So I looked them all up. You said I should only pay attention mostly to the conditions labeled ones, twos and threes, but primarily the ones and twos. So I went through all the ones, and there were 42 conditions listed. The most, and obviously maybe there’s incipient conditions in my body I don’t know about, but at the most, I went through them and of the 42, I have or have had nine of those 42. Of the twos, there were 40 conditions listed, and I have or have had 11 of them, or could conceivably have another four, which included things like parasites, mold, heavy metals that I haven’t necessarily tested for recently, so they may be possible. So overall, I wasn’t terribly impressed with the Cyberscan’s diagnostic ability in terms of actual numbers, although it’s possible, again, like I said, that there were incipient conditions I didn’t know about that it picked up on and maybe cured. I also found some conditions that were mislabeled or misspelled. For example, it said I had Bergman-Mullengracht syndrome, and I couldn’t find that syndrome anywhere on the internet, but did find a similar syndrome related to it, called Gilbert Mullengracht syndrome. But there were also things that it did accurately pick out, like thyroid nodules, reflux, stool irregularity, hair loss, Hashimoto’s, night sweats. And although I think it was a three, there was one really obscure one, which is a condition I have where your nail restarts, which is an issue I’ve had on my big toenails for like five years.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
It’ll pick that up.
Lindsey:
Yeah, it picked that up as a three. Now, by comparison, just for fun, I went to ChatGPT, who’s my new best friend, and I asked “if it were to randomly guess my conditions on a 55 year old female, which ones would it guess?” And it accurately guessed nine conditions I have from a list of the top 12, just based on the conditions that are most common population-wise: osteoarthritis, hyperlipidemia, Hashimoto’s, menopause symptoms including hot flashes and sleep disturbances, osteopenia, GERD, seasonal allergies, anxiety and IBS. So with that long intro, give me your experience with the Cyberscan compared to mine.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
The thing with Cyberscan is, for example, when you were saying that one thing that it didn’t spell right. What I learned because I actually went to Germany and studied with the inventor, and basically what he says is that it could be either that condition, or something similar. It’s not always a one-to-one, but it’s usually in the ballpark of what’s going on. The biggest thing I’ve seen with the Cyberscan is it’ll pick up the things that are the worst things that somebody’s dealing with. It might not pick it up on their very first scan, either, because that’s why we do six scans, because it’s typical that your body will layer these things, and you can’t get to the deeper issues until you’ve cleared out some of those more global things. So that’s what I’ve seen, when they go through that six, by the third or the fourth or the fifth scan, we’re getting into some deeper layer stuff that is way more important as far as the healing process of the patient, but I’m always consistently blown away by what it shows.
Lindsey:
Can you give me an example of somebody with something that it showed and that it helped with?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
There was a case once, this was the craziest story- well, I can tell a bunch of crazy stories, but the one that was the most crazy story I think I’ve ever seen. I saw it right in front of my eyes. I had this patient who had extreme allergies where the sinuses were fully blocked, and he hadn’t been able to have a good night’s sleep in over four months because of these allergies. I made him the card, he put the card on, and within five seconds, he was breathing normally. I was with a group of people when this happened, so literally like the entire group was like, “oh my God, that’s insane.” But I’ve seen that also with people with cat allergies, where they couldn’t even go in a house with a cat. And I made them the card, and they put it on, they could walk right in the house and not react to the cats. Those are extreme. I think the bigger thing I’m seeing is, over time, it just improves the quality overall of the person’s life. Then the other bigger thing for me is, when I’m with the patient, interacting with the patient is, “Oh, you’re deficient in such and such,” or, “Hey, maybe you need to do a parasite cleanse. You’ve got a lot of parasites.” So it’s picking up those things that they may need to focus on to really help their health. Above and beyond just using the card, it’s both a coaching tool and a therapy combined. I’ve never been disappointed with the cyber scan. I’ve been using it for over a decade. We started, actually 11 years ago, in 2014.
Lindsey:
Yeah, there was one thing that came up on it. I don’t know if it comes up much. Maybe you have more experience. You sent me a list of affirmations to read. I started going down the list, and I would say all but one, in theory, could apply to me. But then I got to one that was like, “I forgive myself for leaving someone,” and I left my husband of 26 years in the recent past. And that was like, “Oh my gosh.”
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Right, yeah. It usually picks up some pretty deep stuff.
Lindsey:
Yeah. That one just brought me to tears, because it’s like, “oh my gosh. How could, how could this machine know that from my saliva?”
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
I know, I always wonder who is really behind this text. It’s like, “how do they figure this out?” I still to this day have no clue how that happened, but I know that it works, and that’s why I am never not going to use Cyberscan.
Lindsey:
Okay, we went by the red-light room. Tell me about that one. We didn’t get to talk about it yet.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Oh, that, yeah. So we have what’s called the Trifecta red light. It’s a full body below and above. So you’re getting red light, near infrared light, in the optimal wavelengths and frequency. We can control the frequency on the wavelengths of the light. When you do global, meaning the full body under that red light, what they’re seeing is that almost every major condition has improved: MS, Crohn’s heart disease, chronic autoimmune diseases, Lyme disease, all these really bad diseases that people struggle with. They’re seeing major, major benefits with the Trifecta, and it’s mainly because of the power. Because there’s a lot of red-light therapies you can just get on Amazon or whatever, but this device has about 15,000 watts of power, which is huge. There are very few devices on the market that have that much power to penetrate. So we all know that red light is super healing for your mitochondria. It’s anti-inflammatory, it increases melatonin, it accelerates the healing process throughout the whole body. So, yeah, it’s fantastic.
Lindsey:
So how many watts in a sunset?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
My first experience in the Trifecta bed felt like I’d gone to Hawaii for a week and just laid in the sun and just totally relaxed.
Lindsey:
But you’re not getting a tan, I assume.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
No, there’s no tanning, because you only tan with UV, which people need UV as well. But the red and the infrared is what’s doing the heavy lifting, as far as your mitochondria.
Lindsey:
And so what does the course of treatment look like on a red light therapy?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
For pretty much any chronic condition, they’re going to want to do it three times a week. They could even do it every day, but it’s only a 12-minute session, and if they do that consistently, even over a month period of time, usually after six sessions, most people start to feel some major results, but it could take a few months. If it’s really chronic, it’s all about consistency, being under the light at least three times a week.
Lindsey:
Yeah, of any of the other technologies that we looked at, what is particularly applicable, that we haven’t talked about yet, to gut health or autoimmunity?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Number one is the Plasma field, if you go on to our website, there’s a number of case studies of people that have had severe autoimmune/gut health problems that are completely reversed in three and a half months. Autism. They had a case of two twins that both had autism, and they were almost totally normal in two years. That’s a commitment, they’re going three times a week for a couple of years. But these were nonverbal autistic kids, in two years they were in a school room of their peers at the same age able to speak and read, and that’s amazing, and they’ve had cases of metastatic cancer that have they’ve seen reversed. We can’t make claims, certainly not like we’re saying it cures anything, but there’s been cases where they’ve seen examples like that. So, you know, it warrants some serious research in the future for sure.
Lindsey:
And so let’s talk quickly about cancer, which of the technologies that you use are most applicable for cancer? And maybe you have an example of a case that you’ve worked with.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Well, we’re currently working with a guy right now who has a glioblastoma in the brain, but because the diagnosis is very bad, he’s doing every therapy in the clinic for eight hours a day. So he’s on the pulse machine for four hours a day.
Lindsey:
Must be a wealthy man!
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
A lot of family and friends did a GoFundMe to raise money for this, he has two young kids, so he just wanted to do everything he possibly could do. When we did our initial training with the pulse machine, the guy who was doing our training had just recovered from stage four bladder cancer, and the only treatment he was doing was pulse. So again, it’s not a cure. There’s a lot of factors that go into that kind of condition, but it’s certainly a huge factor in helping the body recover. When you raise cell voltage, your body has the highest chance of recovery. We had one patient who was in hospice. He was in a coma. Actually, he had a brain tumor, and his wife really wanted to get him in here, and so they brought him in a wheelchair.
Lindsey:
He didn’t want to come before then? Once he was in a coma, she was able to bring him in?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Well, it came on pretty quick. He didn’t know he had it. Actually, the Cyberscan picked it up a year prior, but the medical doctors disregarded it. They said, “no, he doesn’t have brain cancer.” And then a year later, he had the brain cancer. So when it came on, he went into a coma fairly quickly. He was older, in his 90s, and so they brought him in in a wheelchair, and he was in a coma. He was in hospice at that point, and they put him on the table, and with that first session, he came out of the coma.
Lindsey:
Verify for me, was it the pulse?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Yeah it was pulse. He came out of the coma, and he lived another four months. They had given him a couple of weeks, and he lived another four months. He did maybe a couple weeks of pulse. That was it. It was hard to get him in here, but he was lucid and communicative till the end, whereas before he was completely gone in a coma.
Lindsey:
Yeah, yeah, right. So I’m curious how expensive these types of treatments are?
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
It’s all relative, right? Because how do you put a price on your health? But we try to keep it as affordable for people as possible. Most of the treatments, we do it as a unit, and they’re about $140 a unit. So that’s, for example, an hour in the hyperbaric, an hour on the pulse machine, a couple of red-light sessions. So typically people will buy, like, 10 or 20 or 50 units, and then they can apply it to all the different therapies.
Lindsey:
We’re running out of time now, so maybe you can just tell people where they can find you and your clinic.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
We’re in West LA, the home of the LA fires, unfortunately. We didn’t get affected, but the whole city is definitely traumatized right now because of that. But we’re in Beverly Hills, South Beverly Hills area. Our website is THUheal.com, and you can reach us through that, and also Instagram is @THUheal.
Lindsey:
Okay, well, I’m sure there’s people in your area, but more than that, people just who might have chiropractors or other alternative practitioners in their area who have these kind of devices and maybe could help them. So thanks for sharing about all this.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Yeah, 100%. They’re all over the country. I mean, if you do some searching, every major city has some form of this type of therapy.
Lindsey:
Okay, awesome. Well, thank you so much.
Dr. Har Hari Khalsa:
Yeah, it was awesome. Thank you.
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